tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post4665430279707208249..comments2024-03-11T16:16:59.249-04:00Comments on Elizabeth Kerri Mahon: Mary Tudor - Romantic RebelElizabeth Kerri Mahonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07763642809052430107noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-64700616027537791872014-12-10T14:57:57.903-05:002014-12-10T14:57:57.903-05:00It was in Mary Tudor's blood to marry for love...It was in Mary Tudor's blood to marry for love after her first husband died. Afterall, two og her great grandmothers- Jaquetta of Luxembourg and Katherine Valois did so without Royal consent and had to pay fines to the crown as well. Owen Tudor, Richard Woodville, and Charles Brandon were all considered lowly, but they are all ancestors of the current members of the royal family through Elizabeth Bowes Lyon and Pricess Diana (bother are descended from Mary Tudor and, I believe Mary Boelyn). The women who married for love did the royal line a solid and infused some new DNA into that seriously inbred line. Since the current royal family is descended the Tutor sisters, I have trouble understanding why they get the shaft so much in fiction and non fiction accounts of history, especially since they were anything but boring.josabby474https://www.blogger.com/profile/08338792966543628896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-49179466813514567152011-01-22T22:18:20.682-05:002011-01-22T22:18:20.682-05:00I'm so glad that somebody told the story of He...I'm so glad that somebody told the story of Henry's two sisters properly instead of bastardizing it like they did on "The Tudors." <br />One thing though. Mary I was actually betrothed to Charles I of Spain. After Henry VIII broke his sister's betrothal with Charles, after Louis died, and after the field of the Cloth of Gold, Charles' grandfather Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor died, and Charles, who was only 20, was elected as his successor, Charles V. Henry VIII passed up an alliance with France (which was supposed to be cemented by a marriage between Mary, Henry's daughter, and Francis' son the dauphin, also called Francis) for the more beneficial alliance with Spain, the Empire, and Austria. This alliance was supposed to be cemented by a marriage between Princess Mary and the new Emperor. The two were betrothed in 1522 when Mary was 6 and Charles was 22. However, Charles wanted an heir and wasn't willing to wait for Mary to grow up enough to produce one, so he broke off the betrothal and married the very beautiful and very rich Portuguese Infanta Isabella, who was only three years younger than him. So, "The Tudors" actually did portray the younger Mary's record of broken betrothals pretty well.allyls2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/00931566001287444427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-92170689285856227262009-03-24T09:30:00.000-04:002009-03-24T09:30:00.000-04:00While I enjoyed this post, there are some inaccura...While I enjoyed this post, there are some inaccuracies in it. Margaret Tudor was not Henry's younger sister - she was older. <BR/><BR/>Also Brandon did NOT inherit the Dukedom from his grandfather, who was also NOT at the battle of Bosworth - it was his father, who died in that battle. Brandon himself was created 1. Duke of Suffolk by Henry VIII - probably simply because he was a favorite of Henry's. He had been a mere Sir before that. And Duke was the highest ranking nobility title right after the royal family. At the time of Mary's and Brandon's marriage there were only three Dukes in the kingdom.<BR/><BR/>Also, Henry was probably not pissed because of the fact they had married (his favorite sister and best friend after all), but because they had done so in secret and lost Mary's dowry because of this. Parliament was calling for Brandon to be imprisoned or executed - what they had done was treason after all - but Henry did no such thing. Instead they were fined to pay back her dowry - not exactly a horrible punishment and the acts of a livid sovereign, is it? He could have had the marriage annuled and Brandon's head cut off if he had been seriously angered!<BR/><BR/>Henry and his sister were also reportedly close, she did have her doubts apparently, if he would keep his promise for her to choose her second husband, but I think that he gave this promise in the first place is very telling. It was extraordinary for the time.<BR/><BR/>I think it also a little dangerous to view this story through the eyes of the 21st century. It was normal back then to not marry for love. Princesses were very important for keeping allies and good political relations with other countries - they could be the only thing to prevent a war. Likewise a King could not marry for love either. There were bigger issues at stake in royal marriages than the happiness of a single person, wether they be a Princess or a King.<BR/>To marry for love and not for social security or political reasons, is a very modern idea. Back then marriage was a matter of expediency, nothing more or less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-81175061937979684862009-01-07T00:36:00.000-05:002009-01-07T00:36:00.000-05:00That is a wonderful blurb to read about King Henry...That is a wonderful blurb to read about King Henry's sister Mary Tudor, Queen of France. However I must clarify something that in the beginning it says that both Mary and Margaret were his younger sisters. Nevertheless, I noticed a small mistake. Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland was in fact two years Henry VIII's senior. Anyway, the post was interesting to read and it is nice to see others express such interest in the Tudors. They may not have continued their line through Elizabeth (though it was continued through Lady Mary Boleyn), they are clearly not forgotten.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12485208575798064752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-49785300676111208042008-03-18T12:17:00.000-04:002008-03-18T12:17:00.000-04:00At the time the Mary Rose was named, Mary was Henr...At the time the Mary Rose was named, Mary was Henry's only legitimate child. Sorry that I didn't clarify that better in the post.Elizabeth Kerri Mahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763642809052430107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-85497242688737378012008-03-18T10:28:00.000-04:002008-03-18T10:28:00.000-04:00I love these posts...but I'm a bit confused about ...I love these posts...but I'm a bit confused about the reference to Mary being Henry VIII's only legitimate child.<BR/><BR/>I can certainly see the argument for Elizabeth, but Henry married Jane Seymour after the death of Catherine of Aragon, which would legally have made him a widower (if one rejects the Act of Supremacy). <BR/><BR/>So by extension, isn't Edward legitimate well?Jennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08013378967522569657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-54430303551038391662008-03-14T08:07:00.000-04:002008-03-14T08:07:00.000-04:00Thanks, Sherry and thanks for the link. I have a ...Thanks, Sherry and thanks for the link. I have a feeling very few people know that Henry VIII had sisters. I've always thought that they represented another side to him that you don't really see sometimes because most books and movies are focused on the Anne Boleyn story.Elizabeth Kerri Mahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763642809052430107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-23858862503560542962008-03-07T16:34:00.000-05:002008-03-07T16:34:00.000-05:00What a lovely post. Thanks so much for informing m...What a lovely post. Thanks so much for informing me and others of the truth. I have linked this post to my blog and hope some of my readers will stop by for an enlightening read.Sherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503657383929273550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-2482216964181938612008-03-07T09:14:00.000-05:002008-03-07T09:14:00.000-05:00Thanks Georgie. I wish the producers of The Tudor...Thanks Georgie. I wish the producers of The Tudors had realized that instead of their made up Margaret Tudor.Elizabeth Kerri Mahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763642809052430107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7468836798747722663.post-7088411783888684452008-03-06T23:26:00.000-05:002008-03-06T23:26:00.000-05:00I read a book on Margaret Tudor a few years ago. S...I read a book on Margaret Tudor a few years ago. She had quite an interesting life. Your post was great to read.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12019450793013285292noreply@blogger.com